Mr. Bamijoko David Okupe, the founding father of Mindshift Advocacy for Growth Initiative, a non-partisan group working to remodel Nigeria right into a world chief in prosperity, freedom and justice, on this interview with LEO SOBECHI, says, no less than that the residents have thought reorienting the restructuring wouldn’t profit the nation.
Nigeria has been dealing with the brink of insecurity for a number of years now, particularly underneath the present administration, what’s your evaluation of the state of insecurity within the nation?
It’s a very complicated scenario to research. However my opinion is that insecurity within the nation now could be the results of the insincerity of management; insincerity of management to convey issues precisely as they’re, insincerity of management to admit their weaknesses and limitations and insincerity of management in relation to open residents.
There’s additionally a scarcity of sincerity within the path of 1 factor and in doing precisely one other. If we take a look at a lot of these items that I’ve defined now, they provide beginning to so many ugly youngsters.
After we discuss insecurity, we have to have a bit of change of thoughts, as a result of we take a look at safety and insecurity when it comes to defending life and property from crime and violence. The default considering is that the federal government wants to guard residents with the complete vary of safety gadgets; safety personnel, weapons, ammunition, for them.
However, at the moment, as a nation, many areas of our lives are threatened, however they don’t appear to obtain satisfactory consideration. What about meals insecurity? What concerning the insecurity of the infrastructure we function and dwell with?
Within the final two years, we’ve had extra states within the nation which have been flooded than they’ve ever been. Erosion has eaten up numerous land in our jap states. Folks’s houses collapse just under them and life is misplaced in occasions. What considerations the insecurity for our lives as a result of lack of correct dealing with of counterfeits and adulteration merchandise in Nigeria – a scenario the place many Nigerians use faux medicine, eat poisoned meals, use faux components of automobiles, faux development supplies and many others. .
When working in sincerity, there is no such thing as a deception or hidden agenda, the place should you really go proper, make individuals imagine you’re going left.
How would you say the federal authorities has gone within the final six years by way of the prism of sincerity that you just communicate of?
The federal government has not been trustworthy with us! Should you test it out, one can find that the governments of many nice nations of the world are honest with their individuals.
We must always by no means see ourselves telling the reality or publicly accepting our flaws as a weak point or a failure. There’s a larger weak point in deception and insincerity. In these nations, it’s not unusual to see authorities officers publicly apologize to residents for errors of judgment or implementation by the federal government. They apologize solely to the residents and say, “Sorry, we missed it and we acquired issues incorrect.” It’s authorities sincerity.
What are you able to level out as predisposing elements that make governments insincere?
Hidden agenda! Make-believe. Deception. In lots of conditions, there’s a deliberate act to deceive and misinform. You understand you may cheat intentionally. You understand that the belongings you say usually are not true, You understand that you’ll not fulfill your guarantees, you haven’t any intention of creating any effort in that path, however make individuals imagine that you’ll do it, solely to get it. in your manner.
It’s what has strengthened the notion within the minds of those who politicians by no means take into consideration the great of the individuals. They’re nearly themselves and their pockets. There’s a normal perception that it’s a mere phantasm that politicians have the curiosity of the individuals at coronary heart.
Additionally it is an phantasm that they’re succesful, or keen to do any good for the individuals who voted for them. It’s typically believed that politicians shouldn’t have any good intentions for the individuals, nor have they got the capability, capability or willingness to do good for the individuals.
Management generally forgets the injury they’ve finished to individuals, however affected individuals don’t forget it. The bulk could overlook, however some don’t forget concerning the failed guarantees. Today, there’s a wealth of data obtainable to everybody, because of know-how. What has up to now been hidden from public view is now open to all. Issues won’t ever be the identical once more.
It looks like alluding to 2015, when this administration launched a marketing campaign on the promise to restructure Nigeria, together with the devolution of energy. Does that mirror the insincerity to which you might be referring?
As I discussed earlier than, insincerity is a deliberate try to deceive. I can actually inform you “A” once I need to say “B” and I could make you imagine every part I need to imagine.
In line with Abraham Lincoln, you may deceive all individuals generally, and a few individuals at all times, however you may’t deceive all individuals, on a regular basis. For instance, every time there may be ambiguity in communication and expression, more often than not, it’s as a result of there’s a hidden agenda.
Due to this fact, we have now numerous clear communication from the management, as a result of there’s a deliberate and calculated transfer to not make emphatic guarantees that may be saved. What in itself is insincerity! Even amongst executives, while you take a look at the procedures, and browse their physique language, you understand numerous insincerity.
Are you in contact with the problem of management not solely among the many leaders but in addition amongst extraordinary Nigerians?
Sure, it occurs among the many residents, the followers, as a result of more often than not the servants turn out to be leaders. Taking a look at Nigeria immediately, many individuals who lead us have been the followers of some previous leaders.
Now, we have now had honest and insincere followers since time immemorial. There are followers who observe not just for what they’ll obtain or what they’ll extract, however make imagine within the management they observe with all their coronary heart.
All of the carpets crossed in politics and the politicians we have now; combating tooth and nails yesterday and the following second they crossed the carpet on the aspect with which they have been struggling yesterday. This stuff are absurd. Even on the basis of primary relationships, when there is no such thing as a sincerity, there will be no belief, truthfulness, honesty and transparency.
The absence of those virtues generates a mutual suspicion, which in itself could be very harmful for good relationships.
So what’s your determination on requires Nigeria’s restructuring based mostly on selling stability between the six areas?
We want stability, don’t get me incorrect. There’s a want for restructuring. In life, at a given second, restructuring is at all times needed to maneuver ahead and enhance. Why do firms do strategic critiques yearly? To do higher! Strategic overview classes in a few of these small and medium-sized companies take days.
So, generally once I hear that the conferences of the nation’s Govt Council meet as soon as per week for just a few hours, I ponder; what may they actually be speaking about? If firms with small operations maintain administration overview conferences for days, generally to deal with issues, we have to begin asking; the place is the operate of considering for the nation?
Each nation, as an entity that wishes to develop and develop, will need to have a deliberate considering machine to make the nation develop. We are able to by no means remedy all the issues for positive. Though I’ve not been to the Federal Govt Council assembly earlier than, however I ponder how a lot guided considering for the answer will be achieved in these temporary weekly conferences.
What’s it concerning the Nigerian mentality that makes them behave the best way they do?
The propensity to be unlawful is in any respect, however what the regulation does is cease that propensity. There’s crime all over the place. Crime shouldn’t be unusual in Nigeria and Africa alone.
You must know the crimes that occur in Britain or america. Our personal largest drawback right here is that there is no such thing as a consequence for unlawful conduct or crime. If there is no such thing as a consequence for an unlawful conduct, the offenders go free with all of the incorrect they do and in the event that they know that they’ll go free with every part they do, the dangerous conduct will merely improve.
Particularly in Nigeria, there may be neither consequence for unlawful conduct nor reward for lawful conduct. The surroundings doesn’t encourage good conduct or kindness, nor does it punish unlawful conduct. It’s only a free circulate surroundings. When this persists, reinforce unlawful conduct, understanding that every part you do doesn’t occur. You’ll do it time and again and time and again till it turns into routine.
So, we’re in a rustic the place unlawful conduct has turn out to be routine, simply because there aren’t any penalties.
So, what’s the manner out?
Our management and our authorities, as it’s achieved in wholesome societies world wide, should guarantee that there’s a consequence for unlawful conduct. Folks have to know that in the event that they steal or do one thing that’s in opposition to the regulation, there’s a consequence to it. When there is no such thing as a consequence for unlawful conduct, the federal government turns into a toothless bulldog and is ridiculed.
The place does Mindshift issue into all of this?
The whole lot begins from the thoughts. The whole lot a person turns into is the results of his mindset. There have been efforts in occasions previous to attempt to change this mindset. Numerous efforts that the federal government has dedicated within the days of Struggle In opposition to Indiscipline (WAI) and Mass Mobilization for Social and Financial Restoration (MAMSER).
Governments are engaged in these efforts to attempt to change mindsets, however the largest drawback is that the federal government doesn’t appear to know the right way to work the minds of the residents. If you don’t perceive the workings of somebody’s thoughts, how will you make an try to vary their mindset?
The opposite drawback with these reorientation efforts is when management does opposite to what it preaches. It turns into a troublesome process to persuade the residents. The prospect of thoughts change is a frightening process, however we imagine that if we start to work consciously and intentionally on individuals’s minds to start to mirror, rethink, and do issues otherwise, then we are able to start a journey of restoration. from the deep pit of dysfunction we’re immersed in.